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Post by Teru Mikami on May 3, 2020 16:34:02 GMT -6
i dont know who raye is yet but whoever they are i hope they are town because he keeps saying things i keep in the back of my mind
a reason i had touta over mello in terms of scumminess is mello did indeed support the idea of laying low day 1. now, it is long past that point and he needs to come back because this plan only worked if everyone agreed to not post. could be scum skating by on an easy day 1 avoidance strategy. but unlike rem and touta until ten minutes ago, you could at least work out the logic for them not saying anything else yet. i wouldve preferred mello to offer that up himself than raye but too late for that now
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Post by Touta Matsuda on May 3, 2020 16:38:44 GMT -6
I’m curious as to why I’m on your scum list Is it because I’ve been MIA? not just that you went mia but the way that you did it. i feel like the early check in day one with fluff sort of posts before dipping for most of the rest of the day is the b8 scum special. you have several hours to prove me wrong though so go out and nab some scum if youre town That’s a fair point, I suppose
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 16:39:06 GMT -6
Why not vote Rem instead, Light? They're in the same boat, but Mello showed a bit more effort though and had a higher chance of being engaged in my opinion based on that. The extra vote there to start helped too. I agree that he did more than Rem. Also his 'good morning' might have been an insidious fishing ploy after all. Fishing for timezones that is.
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 16:40:41 GMT -6
But Mikami does have a point. Mello might have just taken the easy day1 plan to heart and bowed out completely.
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Post by Ryuk on May 3, 2020 16:42:44 GMT -6
With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.
[5]Mello - Rem, Light x3, Hideki [2]Shuichi - Soichiro, (Light x3), (Hideki), Near [2]Hideki - (Light x3), Misa, (L), (Near), (Soichiro), Naomi, (Shuichi) [2]Touta - Raye, Teru [1]No Lynch - (Raye), Mello, (Teru), (Hideki), (Shuichi) [1]Soichiro - (Shuichi), (Shuichi), Shuichi [0]Lind - (Naomi), (Hideki) [0]Misa - (Hideki), (Teru), (Raye) [0]Near - (Light x3)
Day ends at 8CST, in 2 hours 15 minutes
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 3, 2020 16:50:16 GMT -6
ok let me do a quick inventory for myself. full player list.
1. Hideki Ide 2. Hitoshi Demegawa 3. L - CONFIRMED TOWN 4. Light Yagami 5. Lind L Tailor 6. Mello 7. Misa Amane 8. Naomi Misora 9. Near 10. Raye Penber 11. Rem 12. Shuichi Aizawa 13. Soichiro Yagami 14. Teru Mikami 15. Touta Matsuda 16. Watari
l is confirmed town. i like raye as town and watari ive been reading as town so far as well. i got a town/town sort of vibe out of hideki and naomi fighting with each other like they did so ill pull them too. light i do have a slight town lean on for gameplay reasons irregardless of the role, but that one isnt as strong. but lets still pull them out. leaves me with.
2. Hitoshi Demegawa 5. Lind L Tailor 6. Mello 7. Misa Amane 9. Near 11. Rem 12. Shuichi Aizawa 13. Soichiro Yagami 15. Touta Matsuda
so let me go just abit further. remove anyone i have any reason no matter how small or dumb for thinking town. sochiro was being intentionally annoying. not a great reason but ever so slight town read. lind was publically helping with the password, even after he excused himself. dunno if scum is crafty enough to do that with a brand new mechanic. maybe but ill exclude them for now.
2. Hitoshi Demegawa 6. Mello 7. Misa Amane 9. Near 11. Rem 12. Shuichi Aizawa 15. Touta Matsuda
does anyone have any defense for those seven players other than yourself. ill look back as well
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 3, 2020 16:51:57 GMT -6
sorry i got sochiro and shuichi confused. names too similar for me. so final list should be
2. Hitoshi Demegawa 6. Mello 7. Misa Amane 9. Near 11. Rem 13. Soichiro Yagami 15. Touta Matsuda
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 16:54:19 GMT -6
Honestly Misa and Near were also kinda purposefully annoying. To me at least.
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 16:55:23 GMT -6
Also my defense is that I am town. And Misa I dont know if she'd be that clumsy with her reveal as scum. Got nothing for the other 5 tho. (I almost liked Near for how he started with Mello, but he's gone quieter since)
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Post by Light Yagami on May 3, 2020 16:56:23 GMT -6
Misa I feel has been town. Even with the Whammy situation, I can think of reasons why it isn't a damning situation like others are presenting it to be.
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 16:59:20 GMT -6
Are these reasons that Misa herself should be forthcoming with?
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Post by Light Yagami on May 3, 2020 17:00:47 GMT -6
And really if the reveal of the room being opened and whatever was there being destroyed after scum had gotten a look at it was supposed to be for show there could have been something much more promising than what we got. It was very plain and not fluffy at all. Keeping it simple it just feels like a townie who was alerted of the situation and didn't act on checking right away but did act on alerting everyone of the message.
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Post by Light Yagami on May 3, 2020 17:01:52 GMT -6
Are these reasons that Misa herself should be forthcoming with? Oh to be clear I have nothing to do with the situation. I tried a few things and gave up. I still don't know how you get to the answer even after seeing the answer itself. This is all personal speculation after looking at how things went down.
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Post by Hideki Ide on May 3, 2020 17:09:25 GMT -6
I didn't particularly get anything Town-seeming from Near.
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 3, 2020 17:12:06 GMT -6
im glad light brought that up because i also have no clue how youre supposed to get 06 16. i dont know for sure, but scum couldve just brute forced it. i assumed the data part was 1984 and then tried brute forcing the entire month of march because of the 3 in the title before giving up. if they thought it had to be 1984 from the year, there are likely enough of them that they couldve each just done 2-3 months a piece.
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 3, 2020 17:16:11 GMT -6
I agree we could just end the day on Hideki if nothing else comes up but we should probably get more information if we are to keep day going. What do you suggest Light? reading back through i think someone that sticks out to me is soichiro. present early part of day 1 but theyve been largely absent since things actually got goign. and i dont see any sort of really strong town posts in their history. it is a lot of this sort of weak stuff. no offense to light, but he hasnt been absolutely confirmed town in my eyes. going hey other player what should we do is weak, scummy sort of posting. also saying we could end the day on hideki if nothing comes up with like 36 hours left in the day while making no effort ot make content is not a good look either
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Post by Raye Penber on May 3, 2020 17:21:20 GMT -6
Misa has played a persona and I thought her probes into me felt authentic.
I forgot about Yagami. It does feel like he disappeared.
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 17:25:46 GMT -6
Nothing happened on june 6 1984 that would even make sense to fit as a clue either.
I noted Soichiro being questionable earlier. The Shuichi vote threw me off, but now its apparent that there was no reason or motive behind that vote.
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Post by Raye Penber on May 3, 2020 17:29:51 GMT -6
It would be June 16th
But I also googled that date and found practically nothing.
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Post by ~L~ on May 3, 2020 17:30:31 GMT -6
Vote: Mello
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Post by Raye Penber on May 3, 2020 17:31:02 GMT -6
You dropped these ##
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Post by ~L~ on May 3, 2020 17:31:05 GMT -6
##Vote: Mello
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Post by Hitoshi Demegawa on May 3, 2020 17:32:22 GMT -6
Meant to type the 16.
Either way I dont know if it helps us in any way to figure out how it could/should have been figured out. All I can say for sure is that I do not believe scum got a power-aided tip or something before town did.
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Post by Watari on May 3, 2020 17:32:48 GMT -6
It would be June 16th But I also googled that date and found practically nothing. I actually looked into this, apparently a Monster Hunter game did release on that day, but it was XX, not 3U.
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Post by Watari on May 3, 2020 17:35:52 GMT -6
Er, not XX, Generations.
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Post by Watari on May 3, 2020 17:37:59 GMT -6
Speaking of Misa, the story of how she got a message with the code just does not seem true, especially how she claimed to have not checked the password, but if she is scum, she has zero motive for revealing it at all. It doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Light Yagami on May 3, 2020 17:43:54 GMT -6
Speaking of Misa, the story of how she got a message with the code just does not seem true, especially how she claimed to have not checked the password, but if she is scum, she has zero motive for revealing it at all. It doesn't make any sense. This is more or less my feelings. If it was scum wanting to reveal that the damage had been done, they did it slowly and sloppily. The presentation wasn't done very well. I may be sticking too much to who I think Misa is, but I just feel like it would have been done 'right' if it was a scum ploy. Get what I mean?
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Post by Mello on May 3, 2020 17:44:17 GMT -6
Well, I was really hoping for the free night of no kills. I have skimmed what's happened but have not had the time or care to actually read through it all if I am being honest. I do not have any scum reads currently, I just know that I am town. I still stand by the no lynch plan on the basis that if we do kill a town member, it eliminates another name and makes it easier for scum to kill on a guess. I have not read super in depth as I said but I do not think anybody has been super obvious about their identity. Though I do remember somebody mentioning that we do not know the size of scum team or the possibility of an independent which I think is incredibly interesting.
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 3, 2020 17:47:50 GMT -6
i can think of some reasons, but i admit there is logic behind what light/watari/hatoshi is saying. they couldve been afraid it would be revealed it was them in some way hence the incredibly vague the code has been broken post without a follow up until several hours later. i still cant wrap my head around how this makes sense, but i can move them off the list for now. just dont give them a full game pass. leaves us with:
2. Hitoshi Demegawa 6. Mello 9. Near 11. Rem 13. Soichiro Yagami 15. Touta Matsuda
i have no defense for mello, but i think soichiro and touta are better bets. touta in particularly came back in topic to tell us he was drunk yesterday and ask why i suspected him. when i told him he just said something along the lines of how it makes sense and then left again. just checking back in to check in, it feels like.
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Post by Raye Penber on May 3, 2020 17:48:25 GMT -6
Have you not read the game since you voted no lynch?
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