DAY 1 - A Familiar Premise

[Mello]

Considering I said both that I have skimmed and referenced a post that happened after that I suppose I must ask if you are even reading the current game Raye

[Teru Mikami]

May 3, 2020 17:44:17 GMT -6 Mello said:

Well, I was really hoping for the free night of no kills. I have skimmed what's happened but have not had the time or care to actually read through it all if I am being honest. I do not have any scum reads currently, I just know that I am town. I still stand by the no lynch plan on the basis that if we do kill a town member, it eliminates another name and makes it easier for scum to kill on a guess. I have not read super in depth as I said but I do not think anybody has been super obvious about their identity. Though I do remember somebody mentioning that we do not know the size of scum team or the possibility of an independent which I think is incredibly interesting.

that was me who mentioned the indy. i know scum only mentions indy but it has been on my mind since the game went up. the first post is:

"In Season 3, there is more than one Death Note out in the wild. The holder of the original Death Note, Kira, is still at large. A second Death Note is in the hands of a group of individuals in the Yotsuba Cooperation. They hold secret meetings in the top of their company’s tower, where they use the Death Note to perform Kira’s killings. Town wins when all Death Notes and their holders are destroyed. "

i dont want to meta anything yet but we cant confirm l as town day 1. i dont know what multiple death notes means but dont think this has to be a standard game just yet. there are weird rules. dont confirm l as town by role only play.

[Raye Penber]

May 3, 2020 17:49:33 GMT -6 Mello said:

Considering I said both that I have skimmed and referenced a post that happened after that I suppose I must ask if you are even reading the current game Raye

I am asking for your timeline. You have shown up a few hours before lynch while you are in the lead after not having posted for a day or so. You say that you have only skimmed. There are only what, 400 posts so far in the entire game?

I am asking what your involvement with the game has been. Did you peace out and just think you didn't need to check because people would go along with the no lynch plan?

[Mello]

That is why the Indy speculation was interesting as far as I can assume we are guaranteed to have a scum team and a serial killer each with their own death notes

[Mello]

I was hoping that people would be smart and no lunch yes

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

flavorwise there could be as many as 4 deathnotes in play.
But flavor does not make many restrictions I think.
It probably just translates into the fact that scum can keep killing even if we kill one of them.

[Watari]

May 3, 2020 17:44:17 GMT -6 Mello said:

Well, I was really hoping for the free night of no kills. I have skimmed what's happened but have not had the time or care to actually read through it all if I am being honest. I do not have any scum reads currently, I just know that I am town. I still stand by the no lynch plan on the basis that if we do kill a town member, it eliminates another name and makes it easier for scum to kill on a guess. I have not read super in depth as I said but I do not think anybody has been super obvious about their identity. Though I do remember somebody mentioning that we do not know the size of scum team or the possibility of an independent which I think is incredibly interesting.

So you really didn't read the game at all?

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

It cant be individual killers in any case, since scums existence was literally revealed by the OP.

[Misa Amane]

I have no idea how they got the answer! The only thing I knew was what people posted in the topic that 1984 was different and Monster Hunter. The one thing I got on my own was that the thing posted on the door was a calendar! 7 days across. 5 weeks down. I only got that because the host changed it from what it said initially! I viewed it on a cell phone - yes, haha, I have one of those amazing contraptions - which showed it as gibberish. Once the host fixed it, I quickly realized it was meant to be a calendar!. Of course the date format change made that kind of obvious anyways!

Zero idea how the date was found out though! It definitely has something to do with Monster Hunter somehow and probably the calendar!

I couldn't tell you if I wanted to. I wish I could!

[Mello]

What do you mean by that hitoshi

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

There have been games in the past with multiple SKs instead of one scumteam.

[Mello]

I do not see why that means that there can not be multiple individual killers

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

Either way, I am more worried about you actually rising to the SK topic than about Mikami for bringing it up in the first place.

[Mello]

I suppose you are right it is much worse to try to make sure town has information and not try to spread misinformation by making town question the existence of something we were told existed

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

Oh I was saying that that it technically could be done and had been done before.

However, I doubt it in this case. Mostly because of balance issues (if there is balance to be had at all)

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

I dont see why we are guaranteed an SK either.

[Mello]

We are both literally told there are multiple death notes one in the hand of Kira and one in the hands of the yotsuba corporation and our win condition is that all death notes are destroyed unless you think it is just one big scum team with multiple kills per night which would be even less balanced because then one team that can work together has multiple guesses if it is two factions there is a chance for them to hurt each other

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

I can think of flavor reasons for scum only getting to have one deathnote active at a time. But I concede that I did not consider that each Deathnote could result in a separate kill.

(Also Season3 to me should be the Mello/Near arc, but thats just splitting hairs I suppose. Heck, we have characters from all seasons here)

[Hitoshi Demegawa]

Ultimately though, this topic gets us nowhere today.

And thus I might as well pursue the one who stood out to me.

##Vote: Soichiro

[Mello]

How many people do you think you know for sure who they are hitoshi since you are currently the only person around in the last hour of the day

[Misa Amane]

Mello, hello! Can I ask you a question! How did you know to return to the game when you did? You were not following the game, correct? You seem to have returned at an opportune time! I was just wondering if you always planned to return before the deadline or if you have been checking in regularly!

[Mello]

Why my scum team told me to return of course I have been checking to see if day ended rarely throughout the day

[Ryuk]

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

[6]Mello - Rem, Light x3, Hideki, L
[2]Soichiro - (Shuichi), (Shuichi), Shuichi, Hitoshi
[2]Shuichi - Soichiro, (Light x3), (Hideki), Near
[2]Hideki - (Light x3), Misa, (L), (Near), (Soichiro), Naomi, (Shuichi)
[2]Touta - Raye, Teru
[1]No Lynch - (Raye), Mello, (Teru), (Hideki), (Shuichi)
[0]Lind - (Naomi), (Hideki)
[0]Misa - (Hideki), (Teru), (Raye)
[0]Near - (Light x3)

Day ends at 8CST, in 45 minutes

[Raye Penber]

I was thinking the same thing as misa. I suspect Mello would not have returned had he not been in the lead.

I feel the big difference is the juxatoposition of what I did and what Mello did. I wanted a no lynch no kill, it obviously was not going to happen, so I returned to usual mafia playing.

Mello wanted a no lynch no kill, peaced out. And showed up with a few hours left in the day having not read anything.


I think its time for a Mello claim

[Mello]

Sure I am vanilla

[Light Yagami]

May 3, 2020 17:47:50 GMT -6 Teru Mikami said:

i can think of some reasons, but i admit there is logic behind what light/watari/hatoshi is saying. they couldve been afraid it would be revealed it was them in some way hence the incredibly vague the code has been broken post without a follow up until several hours later. i still cant wrap my head around how this makes sense, but i can move them off the list for now. just dont give them a full game pass. leaves us with:

2. Hitoshi Demegawa
6. Mello
9. Near
11. Rem
13. Soichiro Yagami
15. Touta Matsuda

i have no defense for mello, but i think soichiro and touta are better bets. touta in particularly came back in topic to tell us he was drunk yesterday and ask why i suspected him. when i told him he just said something along the lines of how it makes sense and then left again. just checking back in to check in, it feels like.

There was something else I speculated on that I thought I had no way of confirming and didn't want to just put words in Misa's mouth or give them an out themselves, but I just noticed now that there is a way I can confirm a suspicion I had and see that  I was right.

On the desktop version of things each post tells you if it was made via mobile or not. The post letting us know they were messaged the code was done via mobile. My personal initial read was something along the lines of "Huh, guess they were mobile and didn't have time to check or something but wanted to get the info out." Which I can only speculate on, but Mobile/ non mobile information is pretty useful to have in general potentially.

[Light Yagami]

May 3, 2020 17:51:27 GMT -6 Teru Mikami said:

May 3, 2020 17:44:17 GMT -6 Mello said:

Well, I was really hoping for the free night of no kills. I have skimmed what's happened but have not had the time or care to actually read through it all if I am being honest. I do not have any scum reads currently, I just know that I am town. I still stand by the no lynch plan on the basis that if we do kill a town member, it eliminates another name and makes it easier for scum to kill on a guess. I have not read super in depth as I said but I do not think anybody has been super obvious about their identity. Though I do remember somebody mentioning that we do not know the size of scum team or the possibility of an independent which I think is incredibly interesting.

that was me who mentioned the indy. i know scum only mentions indy but it has been on my mind since the game went up. the first post is:

"In Season 3, there is more than one Death Note out in the wild. The holder of the original Death Note, Kira, is still at large. A second Death Note is in the hands of a group of individuals in the Yotsuba Cooperation. They hold secret meetings in the top of their company’s tower, where they use the Death Note to perform Kira’s killings. Town wins when all Death Notes and their holders are destroyed. "

i dont want to meta anything yet but we cant confirm l as town day 1. i dont know what multiple death notes means but dont think this has to be a standard game just yet. there are weird rules. dont confirm l as town by role only play.

L is very much host confirmed town. Are you still suggesting he shouldn't be?

[Raye Penber]

...

L is confirmed town

[Light Yagami]

May 3, 2020 18:04:52 GMT -6 Mello said:

We are both literally told there are multiple death notes one in the hand of Kira and one in the hands of the yotsuba corporation and our win condition is that all death notes are destroyed unless you think it is just one big scum team with multiple kills per night which would be even less balanced because then one team that can work together has multiple guesses if it is two factions there is a chance for them to hurt each other

Ben was very recently a role that had to kill a fellow town member in order to meet his win condition.

I don't feel like we have to limit our views to scum vs sk or anything just yet. The note could very well be in a town member's possession and they may have their own win condition. 

[Mello]

If they have their own win condition then they are not town the win conditions were given to us in post one scum and I read that as all scum have to outnumber town while town has to destroy death notes