DAY 2 - This Scum Had a Different Meaning in the Scum

[Near]

I like Ray Penber a lot

[Teru Mikami]

i question if youve read any of the game at all as i have been the one pushing touta the most. he was on my top two list yesterday, the second of which was the roleblocker who i convinced death and light to lynch over mello. so even with the autocorrect i would think you would know what i am saying. although it is funny because if i had a shot im pretty sure i would shoot you actually.

[Near]

not really

problems with the wife

[Light Yagami]

May 6, 2020 9:43:15 GMT -6 Near said:

not really

problems with the wife

Okay this is getting stupid. Stop.

[Near]

May 6, 2020 9:49:06 GMT -6 Light Yagami said:

May 6, 2020 9:43:15 GMT -6 Near said:

not really

problems with the wife

Okay this is getting stupid. Stop.

stop what? lynch me for not reading the game if you want, but i don't get what you're yelling at me for

[Light Yagami]

Stop gimmick posting.

[Near]

fuck you. there was nothing gimmick about that post.

[Raye Penber]

Near and Light going at it is nicely poetic.

[Near]

i hate his smug face

[Hideki Ide]

Obviously we got time, but it looks like Touta is going the route of 'say nothing, give no information, and die without struggle'

[Near]

he really should have gone for the rem strat

difficult to shoot the moon you know?

[Teru Mikami]

that was pretty much exactly what i was thinking. at this point he was already on his last legs so a good strategy for scum is to just give nothing. which explains how he somehow had exactly zero reads two days in. i suppose i should start looking into what next at this point.

[Raye Penber]

Yeah, its late enough in the day to assume Touta has given up.

[~L~]

May 6, 2020 9:32:43 GMT -6 Near said:

May 6, 2020 9:20:08 GMT -6 Teru Mikami said:

touta at this point seems to be deliberately trying to not give any reads. he has been around enough now and has interacted with a handful of people and certainly has had enough time to read part of the day. he knew enough that he couldn't say t-o-w-n for example. i dont think there is a single person on that player list that doesnt provide any thoughts as scum

Oh. You were the one I alluded to earlier. I think this is a suspiciously bizarre reason to excuse touta.


HB

IGCD

Tange

Lea

Mzero


These are are all people I've seen be extremely inactive and useless as scum. more so than when they're scum. I could add more examples by slightly raising standards.obviously not going to speculate on who I think is playing what slot however there's more than enough examples to defeat "i dont think a single person that doesnt provide any thoughts as scum"

conversely who are these people you think provide thoughts as scum but not scum. if i had the shot i'd shoot you tbh

I really dont like this post. It seems like trying to get one of those people to try and react to it to narrow down who their slot could be.

[Ryuk]

[4]Touta - Teru, Light x2, (Raye), Hideki
[2]Watari - Mello, Raye
[2]Mello - (Light x2), (L), Rem, Watari
[1]Hideki - Touta
[1]Rem - Naomi
[1]Near - L

Day ends today at 8PM CST. About 8 hours from now!

[~L~]

It was noon PST that Touta has to claim?

[Teru Mikami]

let me do this again as it appears to have caught two scum yesterday. full playerlist below.

1. Hideki Ide
2. L - CONFIRMED Towwn
3. Light Yagami
4. Mello
5. Misa Amane
6. Naomi Misora
7. Near
8. Raye Penber
9. Rem
10. Shuichi Aizawa
11. Teru Mikami
12. Touta Matsuda
13. Watari

i will remove myself, l and light. i suppose you could argue light is some sort of weird indy role, but if he is he isnt playing it well. he immediately put himself out there yesterday and helped lynch the blocker. scum tried to kill him already which indicates they will be coming back for him at some point. that isnt how i imagine an indy would play, so i am comfortable labeling him t-o-w-n. the next tier down i am less certain of but have no interest in lynching today. i have liked raye all game, even if end of day 1 was rough for him (especially if mello flips t-o-w-n). beyond that though i have liked his content overall. it also didnt feel like a s-c-u-m/s-c-u-m lynch yesterday. the day felt pretty boring until sultan became a candidate then it felt much more chaotic. mello also had a couple of good posts today that i like from a t-o-w-n midset so im fine taking him out for now. finally i think ill bump hideki out for now. again, another bad end of day that left him defending the roleblocker, but town can be wrong. he has a sort of t-o-w-n-y anger to him at times which feels legit and i have at least liked some of his posts. im definitely less certain than i was yesterday but we can bump him out of here at least for now.

5. Misa Amane
6. Naomi Misora
7. Near
9. Rem
10. Shuichi Aizawa
12. Touta Matsuda
13. Watari

thats still too many i need to eliminate a couple more. so let me see who i can bump off for minor or dumb reasons. shuichi has done absolutely nothing today and did nothing but vote yesterday. however, he voted the roleblocker three separate times and the roleblocker seemed genuinely annoyed with him. obviously this can easily be faked and ive seen scum leave bad votes on other scum before, but ill take him out for now. and now heres a really dumb one: rem. rem makes one post yesterday and everyone mentions how bad this is. roleblocker gets lynched and he makes a second single post before bouncing. does s-c-u-m really make absolutely zero effort in this scenario? wouldnt they tell him "hey you need to post more than once we are in serious trouble"? maybe not. you could argue it worked yesterday as he wasnt lynched. touta came in and posted fake nothingness to at least look active. rem is just gone. not much, but ill take him out for now. naomi is someone who keeps dropping for me based on them not doing anything but i did sort of like their argument with hideki yesterday as that seemed like some real thoughts. also they confused shuichi and soichiro once yesterday. it could be nothing, but wouldnt s-c-u-m be absolutely sure who their rb is? again, this is very minor, and easily faked, but it is at least something i noticed (and i made the same mistake once yesterday as their names are so similar)

5. Misa Amane
7. Near
12. Touta Matsuda
13. Watari

leaves me with those four to look into a bit more. if anyone has any insight into any of those i might be missing id love to hear it. i know we covered misa yesterday but i cant say ive been overly impressed by today. or if anyone wants to comment on some of the people i excluded that would be good too. no need to just let touta stiffle all thoughts today

[Mello]

At least misa showed up sometimes yesterday though I am expecting her to show up again because it seems like she only appears when people talk about or are calling her scum

[Light Yagami]

Well I can help with that, since Touta will be shot anyways

##unvote
##Double: Misa

[Teru Mikami]

misa made two posts late yesterday. well three, but the third was just them saying they didnt know how the code was solved:

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Mello, hello! Can I ask you a question! How did you know to return to the game when you did? You were not following the game, correct? You seem to have returned at an opportune time! I was just wondering if you always planned to return before the deadline or if you have been checking in regularly!

Misa Amane Avatar
May 3, 2020 19:43:58 GMT -5 Misa Amane said:
I don't know! I am just very very concerned because you have been missing all game! You are in the lead late! You show up and begin talking about a Serial Killer!!! That is concerning to me.
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she puts some light heat on mello both times, but doesnt offer a vote. she subsequently disappears and leaves her vote on hideki instead of contributing to either lynch. also the phrasing in the second post feels unnatural.

[Raye Penber]

I don't see the argument for Misa over other inactives.

[Hideki Ide]

The argument is she is annoying.

[Teru Mikami]

i dont know what it means, but i believe near is the only player that isnt correcting their t-o-w-n/scum mistakes. also, i feel posts like this are some of scums favorite kind of posts to make:

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Huh. I wrote off Watari because I had him filed under active, but if he didn't have a vote down...not great, Bob. Especially if it actually was mafia/mafia

tryin to solve that puzzle is a pretty convenient excuse to not scum hunt js

i had literally no idea it was so bad, lol. but again i consider the "check in tag" kind of inactivity more sus than the fell off a cliff and forgot to eber come back to www.gamefaqws.com kind. we have no data on them. but some on shuchi

i think Shinichi is suspicious for actively lurking - the Not Alignment Indicative type of lurking is people genuinely being busy. but he voted, a few times, so he's clearly around and intentionally not providing thoughts on the game.

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that sort of tut tutting about inactivity or not scum hunting while not actually providing much content themselves is one of scums favorite things to do. it is very easy to note who isnt posting. much more difficult to actually post something of note themselves. they are not as inactive as some people, but they have 40 posts through two days. id say roughly half of those are nothing posts or silly roleplaying type stuff and then you have another batch where they mostly comment on activity of other players or the lack thereof. it is worth noting sultan did the same thing the day before. complaining about the lack of activity without actually making any activity.

[Light Yagami]

Near what info did you share again today?

[Teru Mikami]

posted below:

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rofl i was waiting for people to show the slightest bit of curiosity about my info.

the first piece is that i got targeted with a weird multiple choice ability, that i think was scum but could be scum. i had the option to be roleblocked, rolescanned or tracked.

the second piece is that i received a pm that said that Hideki Ide is Kira and i think that one was also scum bc it was way too on the nose to be a second hand scan or w/e. it also said hideki wasn't Han, but a player i won't say. i am curious if it is the same source as misa's code D1.

idk if this is useful at all, i couldnt even make it past the first stage of the d1 puzzle so hopefully this helps someone else, lol

personally i think Matsuda being asked for content and saying "look I'm Towon and two towon have died already" is extrodinarily skeytchy, like thats somehow worse than the people who have literally posted nothing lmao.

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there is a lot here, but something that sticks out is "it also said hideki wasn't Han, but a player i wont say". who ever said that hideki was han? i dont understand why that was brought up in the first place

[Light Yagami]

I feel that info is pretty useless personally. But I do think that Near is town now.

[Light Yagami]

May 6, 2020 12:47:00 GMT -6 Light Yagami said:

I feel that info is pretty useless personally. But I do think that Near is scum now.

Fell for it! I think he is village.

[Hideki Ide]

The first part of that info feels like a Town role more than a Scum one, which is NAI for Near.

The second part feels like it may have been the day 1 prize? Doesn't seem like an action that would persist the whole game. Unless someone has the ability "send a message through the host", which is totally viable, but also seems like a silly way to use it. And given I am not Kira and am Han, it's a weird bit of misdirection.

I SUPPOSE Near could be making it up, but I feel that's less likely.

[Mello]

Are you still planning to shoot touta

[Raye Penber]

I don't like that Hideki is drawing this out