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Post by ~L~ on May 4, 2020 21:49:57 GMT -6
[8]Soichiro - (Shuichi), (Shuichi), Shuichi, Hitoshi, Teru, Mello, Light x3, Near [5]Mello - Rem, (Light x3), (Hideki), L, Raye, Hideki, Soichiro [2]Hideki - (Light x3), Misa, (L), (Near), (Soichiro), Naomi, (Shuichi) [0]Shuichi - (Soichiro), (Light x3), (Hideki), (Near) [0]Watari - (Mello) [0]Touta - (Raye), (Teru) [0]No Lynch - (Raye), (Mello), (Teru), (Hideki), (Shuichi) [0]Lind - (Naomi), (Hideki) [0]Misa - (Hideki), (Teru), (Raye) [0]Near - (Light x3), (Hideki) people not voting are watari, touta, and lind. dont think anyone has any of those three high on their scum list. then misa and naomi ended on a useless splinter. naomi at least has reasoning. misa as far as i can tell parked her vote their all day after light voted and then did nothing even though she was around enough. a useless splinter that ended up towwn to boot.
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Post by Naomi Misora on May 4, 2020 21:50:48 GMT -6
By the way, I think Lind is also a wolf
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Post by Watari on May 4, 2020 21:51:07 GMT -6
Speaking for myself, Hideki jumping off Near and onto Mello in response to Light switching his vote is not a good look for him. if you believe mello to be scum, why is hideki jumping onto mello at eod a bad look for him? Because Soichiro was the roleblocker, duh. I'm assuming that if Mello and Hideki are scummates, Mello's role is less valuable than the RB and thus he would the preferred sacrifice for scum.
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Post by Mello on May 4, 2020 21:51:11 GMT -6
Death was hitoshi not hideki
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Post by Watari on May 4, 2020 21:53:49 GMT -6
It is always fun when the confirmed scum does not want to play so Watari if you were around at end of day who would you have voted for Hm, I'm not sure, actually. I didn't have many thoughts about Soichiro before I left while I had more negative ones on you, but I can't deny the possibility that I would just follow Light.
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Post by Mello on May 4, 2020 21:55:53 GMT -6
So if I am a weaker scum than roleblocker why do I follow into the roleblocker
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Post by Watari on May 4, 2020 21:56:47 GMT -6
[8]Soichiro - (Shuichi), (Shuichi), Shuichi, Hitoshi, Teru, Mello, Light x3, Near [5]Mello - Rem, (Light x3), (Hideki), L, Raye, Hideki, Soichiro [2]Hideki - (Light x3), Misa, (L), (Near), (Soichiro), Naomi, (Shuichi) [0]Shuichi - (Soichiro), (Light x3), (Hideki), (Near) [0]Watari - (Mello) [0]Touta - (Raye), (Teru) [0]No Lynch - (Raye), (Mello), (Teru), (Hideki), (Shuichi) [0]Lind - (Naomi), (Hideki) [0]Misa - (Hideki), (Teru), (Raye) [0]Near - (Light x3), (Hideki) people not voting are watari, touta, and lind. dont think anyone has any of those three high on their scum list. then misa and naomi ended on a useless splinter. naomi at least has reasoning. misa as far as i can tell parked her vote their all day after light voted and then did nothing even though she was around enough. a useless splinter that ended up towwn to boot. How are you sure that Hideki is towwn?
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Post by Watari on May 4, 2020 22:01:32 GMT -6
So if I am a weaker scum than roleblocker why do I follow into the roleblocker Because that raises the question of why you didn't vote to save yourself.
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Post by Mello on May 4, 2020 22:04:45 GMT -6
So I just hoped enough town was around to make sure he died okay sure I can see it
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Post by Mello on May 4, 2020 22:06:27 GMT -6
Towwn not scum this is so dumb
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Post by Light Yagami on May 4, 2020 22:09:50 GMT -6
Mello you handcuffed yourself to wherever I was going to move, let's not try and be cute here.
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Post by Mello on May 4, 2020 22:11:46 GMT -6
If I am being completely honest I voted soichi before I saw you had and I was just hoping people would follow I was completely expecting to die yesterday with Raye piling on to where it wouldn't have been enough for just you to change your vote light
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Post by Hideki Ide on May 4, 2020 22:12:41 GMT -6
Damn, mafia is overconfident. PROBABLY means Near is mafia, then.
Out of all the people currently with votes on them, Watari looked solid in the trivia finding stuff out thread. Mello proooobably isn't mafia after that end of day. Touta probably the best bet. I would also say that Rem is not mafia. He doesn't just pop in here to say "good job team" to start the day as mafia. Doesn't make sense. So out of the four, Touta > Watari > Mello > Rem in preference, with Touta far ahead, but Near is probably mafia anyway.
I hope you all understand my desire to keep my night results close to chest for now.
I haven't read the day so far. Only skimmed. Has anyone pushed me?
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Post by Light Yagami on May 4, 2020 22:45:25 GMT -6
Yeah I want you're results you had a very poor end of day.
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Post by Hideki Ide on May 4, 2020 22:49:35 GMT -6
Nah.
Poor end of day is the people who pointed out that bad votes were happening but didn't switch because they wanted the credit for calling things bad without actually moving their vote.
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Post by ~L~ on May 4, 2020 23:13:34 GMT -6
It is always fun when the confirmed scum does not want to play so Watari if you were around at end of day who would you have voted for Salty scum is salty
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Post by Mello on May 4, 2020 23:15:07 GMT -6
Still not scum so that would be impossible
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Post by ~L~ on May 4, 2020 23:25:13 GMT -6
Well you have convinced me.
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 4, 2020 23:44:09 GMT -6
Nah. Poor end of day is the people who pointed out that bad votes were happening but didn't switch because they wanted the credit for calling things bad without actually moving their vote. votes can be bad without it indicating that sultan was innocent. near's vote looked to me like a bad attempt to get light to panic and switch his votes back to mello. it was clear their vote alone couldnt save sultan so, if they were scum, it was really the only strategy they could have short of multiple people jumping on at the very last second. even if near is town, it is still a bad vote because it is a late no context vote when they clearly had time to post other stuff. you can think the vote was bad and still think it doesnt exonerate sultan.
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Post by Teru Mikami on May 4, 2020 23:54:25 GMT -6
that line near the bottom should say "even if near is t-o-w-n"
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Post by Touta Matsuda on May 5, 2020 0:18:49 GMT -6
1) I very much hate the fact I can’t say the shorter version of village 2) I don’t understand the case on Mello 3) I understand if people want to lynch me, I was pretty ass yesterday 4) I should be able to be more active overall today
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Post by Mello on May 5, 2020 0:36:12 GMT -6
Towwn is still shorter than village
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Post by Naomi Misora on May 5, 2020 0:58:18 GMT -6
1) I very much hate the fact I can’t say the shorter version of village 2) I don’t understand the case on Mello 3) I understand if people want to lynch me, I was pretty ass yesterday 4) I should be able to be more active overall today
If you knew you couldn't say "villager", you would have read what happened today. Would you like to share something?
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Post by Naomi Misora on May 5, 2020 1:07:03 GMT -6
At the deadline, how Mello voted wasn't wolfish. Hideki said so too, but he's trying to make a good look by defending a villager. Well, I have a bias though...
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Post by Naomi Misora on May 5, 2020 1:16:56 GMT -6
Though he said Mello's vote wasn't like a wolf, Hideki voted for Mello when Soichiro became the lynch leader. The reason was that Mello voted for Soichiro. But voting for self-defense is natural, right?
And today he says Mello is probably a villager "after that end of day".
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Post by Hideki Ide on May 5, 2020 7:57:44 GMT -6
At the deadline, how Mello voted wasn't wolfish. Hideki said so too, but he's trying to make a good look by defending a villager. Well, I have a bias though... You should try reading the end of day 1 again.
It wasn't Mello's self-preservation vote - when he showed up, he cast a DIFFERENT vote. He suggested an alternative who had no votes, rather than pushing up another train to 3. That indicates to me that he was still actively looking for mafia instead of trying to just not get lynched.
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Post by Naomi Misora on May 5, 2020 8:39:15 GMT -6
I know that. You said his first vote was villager-esque, but then after he voted for Soichiro to save himself you voted him. But what's the problem with voting to save himself in that situation? By that point, Light had moved his votes to Soichiro I believe. Today, you are again calling Mello "probably town"
To me, this looks like you are defending Mello to look good if he flips villager, except at the time the scum roleblocker was in danger...
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Post by Naomi Misora on May 5, 2020 8:40:08 GMT -6
*Today, you are again calling Mello "probably not mafia"
Sorry about that
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Post by Ryuk on May 5, 2020 8:42:42 GMT -6
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Post by Raye Penber on May 5, 2020 9:22:05 GMT -6
My biggest problem with Mello is how increased his activity is after almost getting lynched compared to before it. There are some players who get lynched because they are habitually inactive. Mello has shown he is capable of activity, but chose not to all of day 1. I think the first 24 hours is excusable given it looked like we might no lynch, but not showing up till a couple hours left in the day is inexcusable
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